Prelude: I just heard the good writer man James Baldwin, interviewed a year before his death at 63 in 1986, say this.

“I worked all day and I wrote all night.”

Sometimes I wish I had done so, and I’m not sure wishing could have ever made enough difference. Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans.

The Main Movement

“Bonus: My Podcast with Wally feat. Wallace Shawn from Chapo Trap House, 6/26/20”

This is sort of how the title of the sound looks in my podcatcher. You can find a copy of it here if you are so moved, although my intention here is to gloss the whole thing, so you don’t have to, and I will post links to a few things that might make better use of your time.

The initial sonic text though is by far the best episode of Chapo I’ve heard, and I think this is mostly because the creators of the podcast are very young, and Wallace Shawn is very old.